Comments on: Beer of the Week – Pilsner Urquell http://www.tasteto.com/2007/10/09/beer-of-the-week-pilsner-urquell/ Food & Drink In Toronto Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:03:57 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Greg Clow http://www.tasteto.com/2007/10/09/beer-of-the-week-pilsner-urquell/comment-page-1/#comment-589 Greg Clow Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:41:45 +0000 http://www.tasteto.com/2007/10/09/beer-of-the-week-pilsner-urquell/#comment-589 Alex - nowhere in my article did I claim that Pilsner Urquell is not "original" or "distinctive". I made it clear that it is, indeed, the original Pilsner, and is still a very good beer, and still one of the best examples of the style. I just happen to find a couple of other Pilsners to be a bit more enjoyable to me. Perhaps it's because they're brewed in smaller batches (most of the ones I like better come from relatively small breweries), or perhaps it's because they're fresher due to not travelling as far to get to me. But even if I enjoy other beers more, it doesn't take away from my respect for Urquell as being a world classic. Alex - nowhere in my article did I claim that Pilsner Urquell is not "original" or "distinctive". I made it clear that it is, indeed, the original Pilsner, and is still a very good beer, and still one of the best examples of the style.

I just happen to find a couple of other Pilsners to be a bit more enjoyable to me. Perhaps it's because they're brewed in smaller batches (most of the ones I like better come from relatively small breweries), or perhaps it's because they're fresher due to not travelling as far to get to me.

But even if I enjoy other beers more, it doesn't take away from my respect for Urquell as being a world classic.

]]> By: Alex http://www.tasteto.com/2007/10/09/beer-of-the-week-pilsner-urquell/comment-page-1/#comment-576 Alex Sun, 14 Oct 2007 02:42:22 +0000 http://www.tasteto.com/2007/10/09/beer-of-the-week-pilsner-urquell/#comment-576 Hi, reading in internet most import websites: Pilsner Urquell Urquell means "original source," and, in essence, the moniker was added to protect the originator of the style. The worldwide imitators may be good in their own right, but Urquell is distinctive. The hop aroma is soft, flowery and round. The mouthfeel is full, the flavor is full of hops and malt with a slight sweetness. At about 40 international bittering units (IBU), Urquell is bitter, but the soft water rinses the palate within seconds. Available on draft or in bottles, but nothing could compare to a fresh draw in Plzen. 4.4% alcohol by volume (ABV). This sentece can explain about Pilsner: ''The worldwide imitators may be good in their own right, but Urquell is distinctive.'' I mean, I didn't tried Prima Pilsner, like I didn't tried a lot of Pilsner here... But When You think at Champagne You think the first Dom Perignon... this is distinctive, Iknow too all aroung there can be good champagne... I know people have different taste and everybody is different... somebody like pizza Hut more than an italian pizza... somebody like a Corvette more than a Ferrari... etc... but there are legend and things that all over the world are regarded and prized (not only from beer writers like Stephen Beaumont, ...I know a lot of this people take a lot of money from company to speak well) and are awarded from actors, musician (Smetana etc...), writers (Kafka...), and artist ....to write a book of beers anyway they have to start from Pilsner Urquell... They were purportedly the first to utilize the thermometer to maximize mash conditions. They made the hydrometer a standard brewing tool. The Czechs also took advantage of the new malting technology to create mellow, light-colored malt. Although these were welcome additions to brewing, Czech beer was still top fermented and less refined than the German brews of the day. The final piece would soon be added to the puzzle. Pilsner is the mother... After maybe We like parents... but We believe always in mom!!! like this american wrote a book about beers... http://www.radio.cz/en/article/92980 Hi,
reading in internet most import websites:
Pilsner Urquell
Urquell means "original source," and, in essence, the moniker was added to protect the originator of the style. The worldwide imitators may be good in their own right, but Urquell is distinctive. The hop aroma is soft, flowery and round. The mouthfeel is full, the flavor is full of hops and malt with a slight sweetness. At about 40 international bittering units (IBU), Urquell is bitter, but the soft water rinses the palate within seconds. Available on draft or in bottles, but nothing could compare to a fresh draw in Plzen. 4.4% alcohol by volume (ABV).

This sentece can explain about Pilsner:
''The worldwide imitators may be good in their own right, but Urquell is distinctive.''

I mean, I didn't tried Prima Pilsner, like I didn't tried a lot of Pilsner here...
But When You think at Champagne You think the first Dom Perignon... this is distinctive, Iknow too all aroung there can be good champagne... I know people have different taste and everybody is different... somebody like pizza Hut more than an italian pizza... somebody like a Corvette more than a Ferrari... etc... but there are legend and things that all over the world are regarded and prized (not only from beer writers like Stephen Beaumont, ...I know a lot of this people take a lot of money from company to speak well)
and are awarded from actors, musician (Smetana etc...), writers (Kafka...), and artist ....to write a book of beers anyway they have to start from Pilsner Urquell...

They were purportedly the first to utilize the thermometer to maximize mash conditions. They made the hydrometer a standard brewing tool. The Czechs also took advantage of the new malting technology to create mellow, light-colored malt. Although these were welcome additions to brewing, Czech beer was still top fermented and less refined than the German brews of the day. The final piece would soon be added to the puzzle.

Pilsner is the mother...
After maybe We like parents... but We believe always in mom!!!
like this american wrote a book about beers...
http://www.radio.cz/en/article/92980

]]> By: Jason Bennett http://www.tasteto.com/2007/10/09/beer-of-the-week-pilsner-urquell/comment-page-1/#comment-575 Jason Bennett Sat, 13 Oct 2007 19:01:06 +0000 http://www.tasteto.com/2007/10/09/beer-of-the-week-pilsner-urquell/#comment-575 Well put Greg, Im not really sure what beer you'v been drinking alex, or what your basing your statements on, but you are quite off. I would go and tell you why you are off, but Gred did a fantastic job of it allready. Cheers Well put Greg, Im not really sure what beer you'v been drinking alex, or what your basing your statements on, but you are quite off. I would go and tell you why you are off, but Gred did a fantastic job of it allready.

Cheers

]]> By: Greg Clow http://www.tasteto.com/2007/10/09/beer-of-the-week-pilsner-urquell/comment-page-1/#comment-560 Greg Clow Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:02:10 +0000 http://www.tasteto.com/2007/10/09/beer-of-the-week-pilsner-urquell/#comment-560 Alex... Thank you for your comment, although I'm afraid you're way off base with some of your statements. First of all, when I said "based on the dozens I’ve tried", I meant that I have tried dozens of traditional-style Pilsners. (And I'm not counting so-called "Pilsners" like Bud and Blue in that list - those are not real Pilsners at all.) The number of different beers in total that I've tried is much, much higher than that - around 1900 since I started keeping notes back in 2002, and even more before that. So I think I have the right to offer an opinion. As for Prima Pils - you've obviously never tried it if you claim that it uses Chinese hops and tastes like "low quality, mass-market American beers". If you check out the Prima Pils page on the Victory Brewing website - http://www.victorybeer.com/pils.html - you'll find out that it is brewed using 2 row German pilsner malt and German and Czech whole flower hops. It is a traditional, craft-brewed Pilsner which is considered to be one of the best in the world by many who have tried it, including well-regarded beer writers like Stephen Beaumont. Frankly, I think you're allowing the old "all American beer is crap!" assumptions to colour your judgement of a beer that you've never even tried, which just proves that you know very little about the American craft brewing scene. Some of the best beer in the world is coming out of the United States right now, ranging from traditional to experimental styles. That being said, I'm sure that there is are Pilsners out there that I might enjoy more than Prima Pils if/when I get a chance to try them. Same goes for any other beer style. I can only judge my personal favourites based on what I've tried so far, but I'm always willing to change those favourites when something new comes along. That's why I keep trying new beers all the time. And where those beers happen to be brewed doesn't matter to me - what's important is how much I enjoy them. Alex...

Thank you for your comment, although I'm afraid you're way off base with some of your statements.

First of all, when I said "based on the dozens I’ve tried", I meant that I have tried dozens of traditional-style Pilsners. (And I'm not counting so-called "Pilsners" like Bud and Blue in that list - those are not real Pilsners at all.) The number of different beers in total that I've tried is much, much higher than that - around 1900 since I started keeping notes back in 2002, and even more before that. So I think I have the right to offer an opinion.

As for Prima Pils - you've obviously never tried it if you claim that it uses Chinese hops and tastes like "low quality, mass-market American beers". If you check out the Prima Pils page on the Victory Brewing website - http://www.victorybeer.com/pils.html - you'll find out that it is brewed using 2 row German pilsner malt and German and Czech whole flower hops. It is a traditional, craft-brewed Pilsner which is considered to be one of the best in the world by many who have tried it, including well-regarded beer writers like Stephen Beaumont.

Frankly, I think you're allowing the old "all American beer is crap!" assumptions to colour your judgement of a beer that you've never even tried, which just proves that you know very little about the American craft brewing scene. Some of the best beer in the world is coming out of the United States right now, ranging from traditional to experimental styles.

That being said, I'm sure that there is are Pilsners out there that I might enjoy more than Prima Pils if/when I get a chance to try them. Same goes for any other beer style. I can only judge my personal favourites based on what I've tried so far, but I'm always willing to change those favourites when something new comes along. That's why I keep trying new beers all the time. And where those beers happen to be brewed doesn't matter to me - what's important is how much I enjoy them.

]]> By: Alex http://www.tasteto.com/2007/10/09/beer-of-the-week-pilsner-urquell/comment-page-1/#comment-559 Alex Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:46:43 +0000 http://www.tasteto.com/2007/10/09/beer-of-the-week-pilsner-urquell/#comment-559 You tried dozen of beers and You like Prima Pils from Pennsylvania... in Czech Republic there are more than 170 Brewery, so U must try other hundreds beer and not "only" a dozen... to say what is better or you prefere! You can't compare Pilsner with Prima... It's like to compare a Czech Budweiser and American Budweiser..., a lot of American prefer light beer with not so much taste (I call It water-beer or girls-beer), I think You are one of that! Anyway can't compare Pilsner made with the best and more expensive hops in the world, with a beer PRIMA from Pennsylvania made with a chines hops, the style tends to remind me of the low quality, mass-market American beers! You tried dozen of beers and You like Prima Pils from Pennsylvania... in Czech Republic there are more than 170 Brewery, so U must try other hundreds beer and not "only" a dozen... to say what is better or you prefere!
You can't compare Pilsner with Prima... It's like to compare a Czech Budweiser and American Budweiser..., a lot of American prefer light beer with not so much taste (I call It water-beer or girls-beer), I think You are one of that! Anyway can't compare Pilsner made with the best and more expensive hops in the world, with a beer PRIMA from Pennsylvania made with a chines hops, the style tends to remind me of the low quality, mass-market American beers!

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